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and 27. . 3 replies
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Posting #1... Subject: CAL 29 Date: Mon,
6 Apr 1998 22:45:42 EDT From: Jscer To: go2erie@bright.net
Mon, 6 Apr 1998: .
I am an ex-Buckeye from Medina, Ohio, now residing in St Pete Beach,
Florida. My 1970 Cal 29 sailed Lake Erie also. It is now docked behind
my house in Florida. I think it is a great boat and continue to enjoy sailing
on the Sailing the Gulf. Sometimes I miss sailing to the Bay as I did often
on the Cris-Dee-Bri.But not having to put it up for the winter or prepping
it on those cold spring days makes me appreciate the sunny south.I wonder
if you can help me find the original rub rail installed on the CAL 29.
Changing it woud be a major project. I will continue to read your webpage
and will also fax you what information I have on my boat. Happy Sailing,
Jscer
Reply #1 . Subject: posting #1 Date: Mon,
11 May 1998 17:48:26 -0700 From: Tim Carman To:
go2erie@bright.net
A few years ago, I had a friend in the rubber extruding business build
a tool to extrude a new rub rail for my 1970 Cal 25. It turned out that
the same rail section worked on most Cal boats of that era, so we were
able to spread the cost around between several boats. We also used a "space
age" material that does not turn chalky or brittle in the sun. If
you are interested, I could try to find out what has become of the tool
and other details. Tim Carman, Cal 40 #72 "FIREBIRD"
Reply #2 . Dan- Thanks for your response
to my mail. Your page is a real treat. A couple of thoughts;
1) I'll look into the rub rail thing and post some info when I find
it.
2) Have you ever contacted Bill Lapworth? He lives in the Tidewater
area of Virginia.
3) In my library I have a book called "Great American Yacht Designers"
which has a great chapter on Bill and alot of Cal history. Another good
book is "Legendary Yachts"(?) by Bill Robinson, which has a chapter
on the Cal 40 and includes more Cal history. Great stuff. I'll get exact
title and authors to you soon. Regards, Tim Carman
Subject: Cal ref. Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 21:06:42 -0700 From: Tim Carman
To: go2erie@bright.net
Reply #3 . Dan- As promised, detailed info
on good Cal references; "Choice Yacht Designs" Richard Henderson,
International Marine Publishing Co. 1979 (In my previous e-mail, I confused
this book with Bill Robinson's "Legendary Yachts", which is a
great book but sadly neglecting in Cal info.)
"The Great American Yacht Designers" Bill Robinson, Alfred
A Knopf Pub.,1974
Good reading, Tim Carman
Reply #4 . Here's another way to tackle
this deteriorated rubrail problem. Replace the molded rubber rubrails with
wooden rails. These wood rubrails are easy to make, very durable and they
do look great. They can be made from most any durable wood such as white
oak, black locust, or even wild cherry. If you really want to spend big
bucks use teak. They can be one piece or can be laminated. Dan Dalrymple,
editor, Old Cal Yachts homepage.
Reply #5 . I found the addresses and phone
numbers of a couple manufacturers that make rubber rubrails. Salisbury
makes many types of extruded rubber products for marine use. They probably
have the best selection of products. They may not have an exact replacement
but they would be a good bet for something that resembles the original
rubrails. Their address and phone numbers: Salisbury, 7520 Long Ave, Skokie,
IL 60077, voice tel 867-679-6700, FAX 867-679-2401. Salisbury would be
my #1 chioce for rubrails.
Wefco Rubber Manufacturing, 21000 Osborne St. #2, Conaga Park, CA 91304,
voice tel 818-886-8872, FAX 818-886-8875. They list themselves as making
a product called "Boat Gunnel" but I'm not sure that they make
rubrails for boats. Dan Dalrymple, editor, Old Cal Yachts homepage.
Reply #6 . Subject: Re: Cal-29 rub rail Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 08:29:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Warren P. Hitlin" To: go2erie@bright.net
I found some info at work (an old print-out of an email). The name I have is Rudy Nickerson at DNR Marine in Massachusettes. The phone number is (508)644-3001. This print-out is dated 11/22/95
so things may have changed. I probably can find the invoice at home if the above info has changed. The rub rail cost me about $200. They are also supposed to have a wharehouse full of old Cal parts!
I hope this helps, if not let me know and I'll search for the invoice.. Warren
Reply #7 . Subject: Where to buy replacement rub rail
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:06:09 -0400 From: "Thomas C. Grant"
To: go2erie@bright.net
I am a newcommer to your webpage and was looking through the old questions/answers and came across several people that were looking for rubrail. I own a CAL31 and needed replacement rub rail. The following company has the rubrail and will ship it directly to you. D&R Marine,
Inc / 31J Mill Street / P.O. Box 921 / Assonet, MA 02702 . Hope this helps those looking.
Tom Grant
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Posting #2...I
need a mast, boom, and all stainless steel rigging for a Cal 2-27. I
lost a backstay during a race on Lake Erie and had to knock the pins out
and drop the rig in order to get back to port. I thought I had a pretty
good GPS reading of where I dropped it but can't find it! John G. . . Mansfield,
Ohio.
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Posting #3...
Subject: Cal T/4 Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 07:44:24 -0800 From: Michael Scalet
To: go2erie@bright.net Tue, 07 Apr 1998: .
Do you have any specs on a Cal T/4? If you do I sure would appreciate
you sending them to me. Thanks.........Michael
Reply #1 . Michael, I have received
a copy of the specs on the T/4 and have included them in the Old Cal Yachts
homepage. You can print to your printer directly from my webpage. Check
my page often as it is constantly being updated. Dan Dalrymple, editor
Old Cal Yacht homepage.
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Posting #4...
Wed, 8 Apr 1998: . From: Glloq1
I own a 1970 CAL 34 whose rudder was recently stolen!!!! Any
advice on how to replace it would be highly appreciated. Regards, . . Jacques
F. Tresse
Reply #1 . Sun,
12 Apr 1998: . Glloql, I am going to start a Q&A/forsale/wanted section
on the Cal homepage. If it's ok, I'll post your inquiry for a rudder. I've
received several requests like yours, enough to start a message section.
I have a rebuilt rudder for an Irwin 34 but it probably couldn't be made
to work. If you have one custom made, my new rudder direct from Irwin
cost me $1700 plus shipping in 1987. I didn't say this to scare you,
just to give you an idea of what a new rudder costs from the manufacturer.
Dan Dalrymple, editor Old Cal Yacht homepage.
Reply #2 . If you are at all handy,
you could build one yourself for around $400. The most expensive part
would be the stainless shaft and skeleton. The stainless should cost you
less than $200. The skeleton is simply MIG welded to the shaft to insure
that the shaft cannot spin or move inside the foam filled fiberglass rudder.
The entire skeleton MUST be ALL stainless of the same grade and professionaly
mig welded with stainless wire. The resin and glass should cost less than
$150 even considering that you would need to make a mold from a good rudder
in order to make a duplicate. You should be able to make a mold of someone's
rudder without even taking their rudder off the boat. Of course you would
need to get permission from another 34 owner before using their rudder
to make a mold. Follow manufacturer's instructions on use of the release
agent so that your friend's rudder is not harmed in any way. The rudder
is cast in two pieces. One piece is laid flat, the shaft and skeleton are
inserted then held in place in a jig, both halfs are filled with foam,
bound and weighted in place until the foam sets. They must be held solidly
as the foam will expand. After the foam sets the exess is trimmed, the
halves glassed solidly together, and the entire surface finished and coated
with antifouling paint. The process is more "labor-intensive"
than "cost-of-raw-material" intensive. Also your insurance might
cover the loss, have you contacted them? Dan Dalrymple, editor Old Cal
Yacht homepage.
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Posting #5 ...Good
Day Dan, Well I hope you can help me. I think we can help each other, i
bought recently a Cal 2-30, with the mast down ,an very old engine, yanmar
ysm12 in really bad shape. i found on board a brochure of the boat and
some specs. information about the rigging and other stuff, i will mail
it to you if you give me your address. I need to find a rigging plan
for the Cal 2-30. if you have one, please send it to me via e-mail
or mail to: Alfredo Howard, Columbia, South America
Reply #1 . Subject: posting #5 Date: Tue,
26 May 1998 21:17:17 -0700 From: Tim Carman To:
go2erie@bright.net
I have a rig and sail plan for the 2-30 drawn by C. William Lapworth
in 1969, as well as some "builders photos" and orignial price
sheets and data. I would be happy to send copies to you. Have Dan give
me your address if interested. Tim Carman
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Posting
#6 ... Do you know the PHRF rating for the CAL 27 and the CAL
2-27. Are you familiar with "Captains Log" it's a publication
that is (was) put out by the CAL owners association? Publication has lots
of good CAL information. BTW I own a CAL 27, hull #141
Reply #1 . PHRF RATING FOR CAL 2 27 Date:
Sun, 26 Apr 1998 07:00:24 -0700 From: Jack Shincke To:
go2erie@bright.net
MY CAL 2 27 HAS PHRF RATING OF 211 BUT I HAVE SLIGHTLY UNDERSIZED
MAIN AND MARTEC FOLDING PROP. ANOTHER 2 27 IN OUR FLEET HAS RATING OF 208,
WHICH IS PROBABLY MORE STANDARD.
Reply #2 . PHRF RATING FOR CAL 2 27 Date: Sun,
2 May 1998 07:00:24 -0700 From: Dan Dalrymple PHRF ratings differ
slightly depending on location of the fleet that is sponsoring the race.
My Cal 2-27 rates from a low of about 200 to around 208 if I'm lucky. My
1974 Cal 2-27 is a standard rig, standard draft, inboard. The later model
Cal 27 mark III probably rates a little lower than this. Again, you will
need to get your PHRF rating from an officer at the club that is sponsoring
the race to be accurate.
What does this rating mean? Here's a quick explanation... For example,
say that my Cal rates 200 and my buddy's Beneteau rates 140. Since he has
the lowest rating, he would owe me the difference between the two ratings
in seconds for each mile raced. Since the difference is 60 (60 seconds
= 1 minute) he owes me one minute for each mile raced. If the race is 9
miles (for example) he must beat me by 9 minutes or lose to me.
Remember, the faster sailboats have the lowest PHRF ratings, the slower
boats have the higher ratings. For example, if your boat rates PHRF of
88, you own a real racing machine! But, since my boat rates 208, that leaves
a difference of 120 (120 seconds = 2 minutes). You would need to beat me
by at least 2 minutes per mile or 20 minutes in a 10 mile race.
By-the-way, does anyone know where I can get a copy of this "Captain's
Log" that Jack Shincke mentions in Post # 6 ? Dan Dalrymple, editor
Old Cal Yacht homepage.
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Posting #7 ...
Subject: What is it? Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 22:12:22 -0500 From:
Gary Easter Fax: 214-946-1538 Organization:
ProMarco To: go2erie@bright.net Dan, I just finished reading your website,
very enjoyable!
I'm writing to determine some information on a mystery sailboat that
I am in the process of purchasing. The ad read 25' Cal Jensen. The
individual I am purchasing it from says the draft is 4'. But after looking
at the photos it may be possible that it's a 24' though not the tall rig.
How can I determine which one I have! If it's a 25' I'd be glad to send
you a photo when I get one. There is also no owners manual or other documentation
except the title. Thanks Dan, I look forward to hearing from you. Keep
up the excellent work! Gary Easter
Reply #1 . Sun, 26 Apr 1998: Gary, As I
read more about Cal Yachts, I think that there actually was a 25 foot
Cal Jensen sailboat designed. Anyone else have anything on this boat?
Dan Dalrymple, editor Old Cal Yacht homepage.
Reply #2 . Subject: Posting #7 Date: Mon,
11 May 1998 17:39:20 -0700 From: Tim Carman To:
go2erie@bright.net
The "flush deck" Cal 25 and Cal 24 are very similar boats.
The easiest way to tell them apart is that the 25 has two large windows
in the main cabin, and an opening port forward, while the 24 has one large
window and one opening port. The 24 is a fractional rig with jumper struts
and the the 25 is a masthead rig. The newest 24 I've heard of is 1970,
while the 25 was made until 1975. My old 25 would beat the 24 downwind
but lose to weather! Tim Carman, Cal 40 #72 "FIREBIRD"
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Posting #8 ...I
need jib/jenny winches for my 24 foot sailboat. Just about any size
will work. My boat's not a Cal but I thought that if any of you Cal owners
had recently upgraded your winches, maybe I could buy your old ones. I
don't need large winches. Eric Stanson, Logan Ohio
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Posting #9 ...
Subject: Cal 31 Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 19:41:25 EDT From: WOOMER To:
go2erie@bright.net
Neat page, but little info on the 31. We own a 31, which there
are two in our harbor, also a 30-3. How can we get more info on our design?
How can we help you? Thanks ,Bill & Susanne
Reply #1 . I'll post anything that I get
about the 31 just as soon as I find something. When I started this Cal
Yachts website in March, 1998, I didn't realize how many designs Cal had
built. I actually started theis site because I couldn't find anything on
the web about my newly purchased Cal 2-27. My promise again: I'll post
any information about old Cal sailboats on this site as soon as I receive
it. Keep it coming... Dan Dalrymple, editor Old Cal Yacht homepage.
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Posting #10 ...
Subject: SPECS. ON CAL 26' /139 POP TOP Date: Sun, 26 Apr
1998 18:53:11 -0400 From: RLStrongman To:
go2erie@bright.net
WE JUST RECENTLY OBTAINED A CAL 26 THAT WAS DEMASTED IN A STORM AND
WE ARE TRYING TO RESTORE IT TO AS CLOSE TO ITS ORIGINAL SHAPE AS WE CAN.
WE NEED SPECS. AND RIGGING DIAGRAMS / OWNERS MANUAL IF SUCH ITEMS EXIST.
ITS LIST ON ITS REGISTRATION AS A 1972 CAL 139 . ANY HELP OR SUGGESTIONS
IN THIS ENDEAVOUR WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANK YOU!
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Posting #11 ...
Subject: Cal 34 Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 19:39:13 EDT From:
NPRoberts To: go2erie@bright.net .
I'm looking for some help with Cal parts support. None of the local
boating shops or sail shops are able to get me the part I need. Where
would you recommend I look for "boom end cap" for a 1970 Cal
34? This cap secures the aft end of the mainsail, and provides connections
for the boom vang and a "boom stay" down from the mast. This
piece appears to be cast aluminum and recently failed. Local shops say
they can get a similar piece and then machine it to work. Are there any
suppliers of new Cal parts, or even used parts? Thanks! Ned
Reply #1 . This is a good question. Does
anyone know of any supplier that can supply parts for these older Cal Yachts?
Actually, I doubt if there are more than four manufacturers of spars and
rigging in the entire US. I'll try to list their names here under this
post # 11. One of them may be able to help. Dan Dalrymple, editor Old
Cal Yacht homepage.
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Posting #12 ...
Subject: cal 28/1987 Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 19:55:12 -0700
From: levitre To: go2erie@bright.net'"
CC: "'dwiese
Dan I have a 1987 cal28. I am in need of a new rub rail and need
some advice on tuning my double spreader rig I would also like to see
if any late model 28 owners have trim problems. I have line drawings and
data sheets original owners manual, etc. have any ideas, suggestions?
Reply #1 . Subject: posting #1 Date: Mon,
11 May 1998 17:48:26 -0700 From: Tim Carman To:
go2erie@bright.net
A few years ago, I had a friend in the rubber extruding business build
a tool to extrude a new rub rail for my 1970 Cal 25. It turned out that
the same rail section worked on most Cal boats of that era, so we were
able to spread the cost around between several boats. We also used a "space
age" material that does not turn chalky or brittle in the sun. If
you are interested, I could try to find out what has become of the tool
and other details. Tim Carman, Cal 40 #72 "FIREBIRD"
Reply #2 . Subject: posting #1 Date: Tue,
12 May 1998, From: Tim Carman To: go2erie@bright.net
Dan- Thanks for your response to my mail. Your page is a real treat. A
couple of thoughts;
1) I'll look into the rub rail thing and post some info when I find
it.
2) Have you ever contacted Bill Lapworth? He lives in the Tidewater
area of Virginia.
3) In my library I have a book called "Great American Yacht Designers"
which has a great chapter on Bill and alot of Cal history. Another good
book is "Legendary Yachts"(?) by Bill Robinson, which has a chapter
on the Cal 40 and includes more Cal history. Great stuff. I'll get exact
title and authors to you soon. Regards, Tim Carman
Reply #3 . Dan- As promised, detailed info
on good Cal references; "Choice Yacht Designs" Richard Henderson,
International Marine Publishing Co. 1979 (In my previous e-mail, I confused
this book with Bill Robinson's "Legendary Yachts", which is a
great book but sadly neglecting in Cal info.)
"The Great American Yacht Designers" Bill Robinson, Alfred
A Knopf Pub.,1974
Good reading, Tim Carman
Reply #4 . Here's another way to tackle
this deteriorated rubrail problem. Replace the molded rubber rubrails with
wooden rails. These wood rubrails are easy to make, very durable and they
do look great. They can be made from most any durable wood such as white
oak, black locust, or even wild cherry. If you really want to spend big
bucks use teak. They can be one piece or can be laminated. Dan Dalrymple,
editor, Old Cal Yachts homepage.
Reply #5 . I found the addresses and phone
numbers of a couple manufacturers that make rubber rubrails. Salisbury
makes many types of extruded rubber products for marine use. They probably
have the best selection of products. They may not have an exact replacement
but they would be a good bet for something that resembles the original
rubrails. Their address and phone numbers: Salisbury, 7520 Long Ave, Skokie,
IL 60077, voice tel 867-679-6700, FAX 867-679-2401. Salisbury would be
my #1 chioce for rubrails.
Wefco Rubber Manufacturing, 21000 Osborne St. #2, Conaga Park, CA 91304,
voice tel 818-886-8872, FAX 818-886-8875. They list themselves as making
a product called "Boat Gunnel" and "extruded rubber products"
but I'm not sure that they make rubrails for boats. You could try them
though, they may be able to tell you another place to call. Dan Dalrymple,
editor, Old Cal Yachts homepage.
Reply #6 . Subject: Re: Cal-29 rub rail Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 08:29:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Warren P. Hitlin" To: go2erie@bright.net
I found some info at work (an old print-out of an email). The name I have is Rudy Nickerson at DNR Marine in Massachusettes. The phone number is (508)644-3001. This print-out is dated 11/22/95
so things may have changed. I probably can find the invoice at home if the above info has changed. The rub rail cost me about $200. They are also supposed to have a wharehouse full of old Cal parts!
I hope this helps, if not let me know and I'll search for the invoice.. Warren
Reply #7 . Subject: Where to buy replacement rub rail
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:06:09 -0400 From: "Thomas C. Grant"
To: go2erie@bright.net
I am a newcommer to your webpage and was looking through the old questions/answers and came across several people that were looking for rubrail. I own a CAL31 and needed replacement rub rail. The following company has the rubrail and will ship it directly to you. D&R Marine,
Inc / 31J Mill Street / P.O. Box 921 / Assonet, MA 02702 . Hope this helps those looking.
Tom Grant
Reply #8 . Subject: reply to posting #12 Date:
Sun, 31 May 1998 23:08:38 -0700 From: "S. Goldman"
To: go2erie@bright.net
I own a Cal 20. I also need rub rail. I located a company that may be able to supply the product. He wants $500.00 for the 46 feet of rail needed for my boat. I asked for a sample to be sent to me. If you are interested, send e-mail to me S-GOLDMAN@worldnet.att.net TTFN, :-) Editor's note: Seem's like plenty, over $10 per foot! Also see posting posting #42. dd
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Subject: Cal 25 coring material Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 08:22:28 EDT
From: SS Madness To: go2erie@bright.net.
I am not new to sailing but I am new to knowledge regarding sailboat
construction. Am interested in purchase of an older CAL 25 but recent
discussions have made me aware of the coring material and how it is affected
by moisture. As you know this is especially important at chain plates
and other areas I may not be aware of. Does anyone have knowledge concerning
the type coring material used, especially in these critical areas, and
for what model years. If a change was made, to what type material and how
resistant to rotting is it. Are there any more concerns I should have in
purchasing an older craft.
Reply #1 . Very good question, SS. Yes,
we do need to watch for leaks into the deck/hull core and chainplate areas
when we purchase any used boat. Most Cal yachts have a cored deck but have
a solid glass hull (no core in the hull). How do you check? Easy way. .
. Have a professional survey done on the boat before you buy. The Cheap
way . . .Simply go below and tap on suspect areas, check for water seepage
on bottom side of deck. Then go topside and take tiny steps all around
the deck. Areas with decayed core areas will appear soft or spongy to the
step.
The cure? No need to panic. Any of this decay can be repaired. Of course,
if you're purchasing a used boat with a defect such as this, the negotiated
selling price should reflect any repair costs.The Deck Cure: The actual
core in the deck offers very little structural strength in itself. The
core mainly separates the two layers of fiberglass to provide deck strength
much the same as a steel I-Beam provides much more structural strength
than a flat sheet of steel plate. The Easy cure: Have the marina fix it.
My Cure: (the hard way but the cheap way) Without going into a "do-it-yourself"
book, I'll quickly explain how I have helped with this same problem on
a friend's boat. #1 Locate and seal leaks in deck. (This is the original
cause of the problem). #2 Locate soft deck areas. #3 Go below into
cabin area, tarp under work area. #4 Drill 1 inch or larger holes in bottom
layer of glass directly under soft spot in rows on approximately 3 inch
centers. (use a plywood guide for hole saw rather than a drill bit to keep
from drilling thru top of deck, save plugs!). #5 Grout out as much of the
rotton plywood (working through the holes) as you can, you don't need to
remove it all. #6 Dry the core area with a hair dryer. ( it doesn't need
to be completely bone dry, Call Gougeon Brothers for proper resin and glass
for repair work, they offer a resin for damp areas). #7 Soak strips of
fiberglass in the recommended resin and pack it loosly into the cleared
core area, not to tightly pack the core area with glass but to simply provide
a bond area between the upper and lower layers of deck glass. #8 Replace
the plugs and temporarly tape them into place.
You will be rewarded with a firm deck area again. Do not try this
if you don't feel that you are not qualified to work with resins. Either
have the job professionally done or get help from a qualified friend. Use
proper face and skin protection and proper ventilation.
If the problem is a rotton bulkhead or chainplate, the bulkhead must
be removed, used as a pattern. A new part must be made from proper marine
type woods. The rotted part must be replaced. Do NOT try to replace
a chainplate, a bulkhead or any part of a bulkhead with the mast up.
Sometimes jacks and cribbing must be used to force the bulkhead tightlyinto it's proper position. Attention must be paid to the boat's position
during the time of the repair. The boat that I helped change a bulkhead
on was in a cradle with the mast down. I always thought, that if I had
to do the same thing on one of my boats, I would do it with the boat in
the water with the mast down. The main thing is to cut the new part as
close to the shape of the old part as possible. Again, do not try this
if you don't feel that you are not qualified to work in structural areas
of your boat. Either have the job professionally done or get help from
a qualified person. NOTE: Many bulkhead replacements require disconnecting
lines from the holding tank! DON'T FORGET TO HAVE HOLDING TANK PUMPED BEFORE
DISCONNECTING LINES! We forgot, and it turned a rough job into a super
rough job...
From my experience, the bulkhead replacements are a much worse job for
the inexperienced than the deck core replacement. (The fact that we forgot
to pump the holding tank may have had some to do with this). I mentioned
doing these jobs yourself because many of the older Cal Yachts are dropping
into a price range that prevents owners form hiring professionals for every
maintenance job. Dan Dalrymple, editor Old Cal Yacht homepage.
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Subject: Cal Cruzing 46 Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 05:47:45 -0700 From:
Dick Seay Organization: To:
go2erie@bright.net
Anyone know where I can find a well maintained Cal 46?
Reply #1 . Subject: Cal 46's Date: Sat,
02 May 1998 18:09:27 -0700 From: Alfred M Bloch To:
go2erie@bright.net CC: Marsha and Jack Ottestad .
Dan; We have an active association of Cal 46 owners, (which include
the 2-46's and the Mark III's). Our President and Secretary are Jack and
Marsha Ottestad. Since we're old fashioned and sexist, I believe Jack is
the President and Marsha the Secretary. Their e-mail address will be listed
as a cc on this to you.
You have started a neat web site, and hopefully we can have synergy.
Do you do the web pages for a vocation or an avocation? (editor's note:
I'm nearing 60, retired and do these pages for fun... Dan Dalrymple)
I will be away for a month or so, but Jack and Marsha can fill you in.
Alfred Bloch ARIEL, a Cal 46 III ( but with the windows of a 2-46)
Reply #2 . Subject: Cal 46 Cruising
Association Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 18:29:31 -0700 From: Alfred M Bloch
To: go2erie@bright.net
Anyone interested in the Cal 46 should contact Marsha Ottestad .
The Cal 46 is one of the finest cruising sailboats ever made. It is
a slightly expanded version of the Cal 40.
Almost all of those manufactured are still in active use, complete whith
a variety of upgrades, such as hard dodgers, internal furling mains, etc.
The Association meets about four times yearly on the West Coast where most
of the boats are located. Our next get together with be in Mission Bay
(near San Diego) Ju;y 24-27th. signed, Alfred M Bloch owner ARIEL ( a 3-46
with the large windows of the 2-46...a 2.5-46?)
Posting #15 ...
Subject: cal 40 Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 13:10:17 -0400 From: Scott
Batchelder To: go2erie@bright.net
I am looking for a Cal 40 for sale in New England area, I agree
with everything regarding the Cal 40 and I also think the Atomic 4 is a
great engine. My previous boat had an A4 and I regret selling it and getting
the 3 cylinder Detroit Diesel which I now must listen to and smell...
Reply #1 . Subject: Cal 40 Date: Mon, 11
May 1998 17:23:22 -0700 From: Tim Carman To:
go2erie@bright.net
Dan- Nice to see someone has tken the time to put together a Cal page.
If you are looking for Cal 40 info, LA is the place to go. LA yacht
club has about 8 of the boats active, including some very low hull numbers,
all in beatiful shape. The are also about six boats active in Puget sound,
and two here on the Columbia river. "Illustrious" out of San
Francisco is still kicking butt in the Pacific Cup after 30 odd years.
I also have met a gentleman in St. Micheals, Maryland, who does the Bermuda
race yearly.
I also have some old sales brochures and other info that may interest
you. Best regards, Tim Carman Cal 40 #72 "FIREBIRD" Portland,
Oregon
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Subject: Looking for a Cal 20 Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 03:58:09 -0400
From: Margo
Hi, my name is Margo Kimball and I am on the board of directors of a
nonprofit, community based sailing school located in San Francisco called
Sailing Education Adventures. . We are looking for a Cal 20 to be donated
(or purchased at a very reasonable price.) Would you happen to know
of anyone who you think may be interested in donating/selling us a Cal
20? If so, could you let me know? Thanks. Margo Kimball, Email: MBKimball@compuserve.com
Phone: 415-550-1168
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Subject: Cal 20 question Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:19:03 -1200 From:
Eileen conaty To: go2erie@bright.net
To Anyone who owns a Cal 20.... I have just purchased a Cal 20 (circa
1969 vintage) and need to replace the mainsail stop, which goes in the
slider on the mast. I'm perched out in Kwajalein, Marshall Islands
and have no ready access to marine stores due to our remote location. If
anyone knows how I might be able to get a replacement for the stop please,
please let me know. Thanks
so much, Eileen Conaty
Reply #1 . Eileen, These sail slide stops
can be purchased at most boating supply stores or from several mail order
catalogs. Two mail order houses that have them listed are: West Marine
and Boats US. Their catalogs are available from most sailing or boating
magazines. Dan Dalrymple, editor, Old Cal Yachts homepage.
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Posting #18 ...
Subject: Ranger 26 (Cal?) in Australia Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 22:22:33
From: "Johannes C de Zwart" To:
Dan, I've been searching for information on a USA built Ranger yacht,
built bay Bangor Punta (CalBoats). I came across your site in my search
and was about to go "back" when I noticed your picture of the
Cal-2 27 looks just like my Ranger 26. My name is Hans de Zwart and
I'm located in Melbourne, Australia. Don't ask me how a Ranger 26 managed
to get to Australia, that's one of the many things I'm trying to find out.
Do you know if there is any conection beteen the Cal and Ranger. I'm looking
for information on design, build dates, drawings etc. If there's any connection
between the two boats, that you're aware of, please let me know. Best regards,
Hans
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Posting #19 ...
Subject: Re: Cradle for Cal 39 Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 07:59:55 -0700
From: Dan Dalrymple To: GLMariner
GLMariner wrote: I am interested in replacing my old wood cradle
with a steel cradle on my 1980 Cal 39 with the 6' 8" draft. Boat
is used on Lake Michigan and is typically stored outside with the mast
up. Any suggestions on cradle size, size of steel to be used, any special
considerations. Terry Johnson,
Reply #1 . Terry,Be sure to check with
your marina for the maximum outside cradle dimensions. Their equipment
will only handle up to a certain size. I would make the outside of the
cradle as large as they can handle especially since you store with your
mast up. Storing with mast up puts hundreds of extra pounds pressure on
the cradle and hull during high winds.
Also make sure that your cradle's pads hit the hull at strong hull points
such as on an internal bulkhead, a compound curve or whatever. Use at least
3 pads per side. You should be able to copy the approximate pad positions
from your old wooden cradle. Also many marinas require the ends to be open
(no crossbar at pad level) so that the cradle can be slid under the partially
raised boat. Dan Dalrymple, editor Old Cal Yacht hompage.
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Subject: Re: cal25 flatdeck Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 08:02:12 -0700
From: Dan Dalrymple To:
Freys wrote: I have a Cal 25 and have a very deteriorated rubrail.
Does anybody know where I can purchase some of this moulded rubber?
Thanks!I I would
also consider selling this well equiped sailboat.It is on a trailer.
Reply #1 . Subject: posting #1 Date: Mon,
11 May 1998 17:48:26 -0700 From: Tim Carman To:
go2erie@bright.net
A few years ago, I had a friend in the rubber extruding business build
a tool to extrude a new rub rail for my 1970 Cal 25. It turned out that
the same rail section worked on most Cal boats of that era, so we were
able to spread the cost around between several boats. We also used a "space
age" material that does not turn chalky or brittle in the sun. If
you are interested, I could try to find out what has become of the tool
and other details. Tim Carman, Cal 40 #72 "FIREBIRD"
Reply #2 . Dan- Thanks for your response
to my mail. Your page is a real treat. A couple of thoughts;
1) I'll look into the rub rail thing and post some info when I find
it.
2) Have you ever contacted Bill Lapworth? He lives in the Tidewater
area of Virginia.
3) In my library I have a book called "Great American Yacht Designers"
which has a great chapter on Bill and alot of Cal history. Another good
book is "Legendary Yachts"(?) by Bill Robinson, which has a chapter
on the Cal 40 and includes more Cal history. Great stuff. I'll get exact
title and authors to you soon. Regards, Tim Carman
Reply #3 . Here's another way to tackle
this deteriorated rubrail problem. Replace the molded rubber rubrails with
wooden rails. These wood rubrails are easy to make, very durable and they
do look great. They can be made from most any durable wood such as white
oak, black locust, or even wild cherry. If you really want to spend big
bucks use teak. They can be one piece or can be laminated. Dan Dalrymple,
editor, Old Cal Yachts homepage.
Reply #4 . I found the addresses and phone
numbers of a couple manufacturers that make rubber rubrails. Salisbury
makes many types of extruded rubber products for marine use. They probably
have the best selection of products. They may not have an exact replacement
but they would be a good bet for something that resembles the original
rubrails. Their address and phone numbers: Salisbury, 7520 Long Ave, Skokie,
IL 60077, voice tel 867-679-6700, FAX 867-679-2401. Salisbury would be
my #1 chioce for rubrails.
Wefco Rubber Manufacturing, 21000 Osborne St. #2, Conaga Park, CA 91304,
voice tel 818-886-8872, FAX 818-886-8875. They list themselves as making
a product called "Boat Gunnel" but I'm not sure that they make
rubrails for boats. Dan Dalrymple, editor, Old Cal Yachts homepage.
Reply #5 . Subject: Re: Cal-29 rub rail Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 08:29:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Warren P. Hitlin" To: go2erie@bright.net
I found some info at work (an old print-out of an email). The name I have is Rudy Nickerson at DNR Marine in Massachusettes. The phone number is (508)644-3001. This print-out is dated 11/22/95
so things may have changed. I probably can find the invoice at home if the above info has changed. The rub rail cost me about $200. They are also supposed to have a wharehouse full of old Cal parts!
I hope this helps, if not let me know and I'll search for the invoice.. Warren
Reply #6 . Subject: Where to buy replacement rub rail
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:06:09 -0400 From: "Thomas C. Grant"
To: go2erie@bright.net
I am a newcommer to your webpage and was looking through the old questions/answers and came across several people that were looking for rubrail. I own a CAL31 and needed replacement rub rail. The following company has the rubrail and will ship it directly to you. D&R Marine,
Inc / 31J Mill Street / P.O. Box 921 / Assonet, MA 02702 . Hope this helps those looking.
Tom Grant
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Subject: Re: Spinnaker sheet block mountings. Date: Fri, 22 May
1998 08:10:07 -0700 From: Dan Dalrymple To: Jack Shincke
Jack Shincke wrote: Dan, if you fly a spinnaker or any of your readers
fly a spinnaker on their cal 2-27 I'd be interested in knowing how they
rig up their sheet blocks. Presently I am using sheet cars on the rear
end of the rail track but I'm not too satisfied with the results and would
like to change and am hoping someone else has done the experimenting. thanx
Reply #1 .
Jack, I don't own a spinnaker but my boat is rigged for one. Here's
my opinion: The jenny track is usually too far foward for the spinnaker
turning blocks. I think that the turning blocks for the spinnaker sheets
should be as far aft as you can get them. Also as far apart as you can
make them. The winches can be anywhere, just make sure that they're easy
to crank and have a straight shot to the turning blocks. Dan Dalrymple,
editor Old Cal Yacht hompage.
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Subject: Re: Builders certificate Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 08:12:18
-0700 From: Dan Dalrymple To: Jodeesha
Jodeesha wrote: I have Cal 29 that I would like to start doing charters
with but can't do until I get the builders certificate. Dan, could you
give me a clew as to where I might find the the records for this?
Reply #1 .
Jodeesha, Since Cal went out of business in the late 1980s, I have no
idea where you can get a copy of these records. Anyone else have any suggestions
with this proplem? Dan Dalrymple, editor Old Cal Yacht hompage.
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Subject: Re: cal Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:03:02 -0700 From: Dan
Dalrymple go2erie@bright.net To: Kimberly
Kimberly wrote: Could you please tell me where I can find a cal distributor.
I live outside of buffalo. Thank you Kim
Reply #1 . Cal, as we know it, went out of business in the late 1980's after a federal excise tax was imposed on the sale of sailboats.
This new tax bankrupted about 30 or more large sailboat manufacturers including Cal, Morgan, Ranger, O'Day, Gulfstar, Endeavor, Pearson, and many more. These manufacturers were already having a rough time due to the skyrocketing resin costs during the 1980s. This new excise tax was the straw that broke the camel's back.
A new manufacturing company has evidently purchased the rights to manufacture Cal Yachts now. As far as I know, they only produce the Cal 33 and the Cal 39. They don't offer parts for the older Cals. However, since they opted for the Cal name, they may be able to offer help in obtaining parts. Here is their address and phone number: Cal - Pearson Corporation, 7900 Wisconsin Avenue Suite 302, Bethesda, MD 20814, vioce tel 301-652-0008, FAX 301-652-0564. Dan Dalrymple, editor Old Cal Yacht hompage.
Again, anyone know anywhere to purchase parts for older Cals?
Dan Dalrymple, editor Old Cal Yacht hompage.
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Posting #24 ...
Subject: Re: The Cal 21 ! Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:07:41 -0700
From: Dan Dalrymple
Angie Richardson wrote: Hey, Hi! You aren't the Dan Dalyrimple who was
in the Air Force (Tucson, DMAFB, 1976-77) are you? It matters not, but
the name was a goosebumper. We have a (1974?) Cal 21, and I'll be happy
to send you copies of the specs, brochure, everything. We got it third-hand,
and the little beggar is a racing sloop par excellence. (She'll turn on
a dime and give you change.) One problem, though: the mast step has
an ear busted off, and I'm not sure I'd trust anyone to fix it. And
it will (and has done) sail like this, but hubby's birthday's coming up,
and I'd like to buy this new. Do you know where I might be able to find
parts? Thanks very much, Angela Hunter Richardson (former USAF, DCM Maintenance
Analysis -- in a TITAN wing!)
Reply #1 . Angela, Sorry, I was never in
the Air Force but I'm sure that this Dalrymple guy is a heck of a nice
guy... We all are. . .
I've had several requests for purchasing parts for older Cal Yachts.
Actually, any decent welding/machine shop could probably repair your mast
step ear and make it stronger than it was originally. Dan Dalrymple,
editor Old Cal Yacht hompage.
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Posting #25 ... Subject: Re: I need a new
engine Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:40:16 -0700 From: Dan Dalrymple To:
Jodeesha
Jodeesha wrote: I have a 1971 CAL 29 the original atomic four is
still in it and has been very reliable however, it has never had any power.
Could someone tell me what size diesel engine would work good for this
boat? Also, I need to replace the strut. Where might I find this? Gordon
Reply #1 .
Gordon, Any good marina should be able to find a strut and/or even replace it for
you.
About this power thing... I'm not sure that the Atomic 4 is entirely the whole problem. The Catalina 30 (beamier AND heavier than the Cal 29) used the Atomic 4 and they seemed to have plenty of power. The Atomic 4 was rated at several different horsepowers from 18hp to about 30hp. Any of these A/4s should have ample power to propel your Cal 29 to it's maximum hull speed (about 6 miles per hour). If your boat cannot make this speed, there is probably something else wrong. If your engine seems to run well and reaches it's full rpm while in foward gear, you may be geared wrong or have the wrong prop. Also, a good thing to check is prop rotation. Running a prop the wrong direction reduces efficiency. Also see replies to Question #38. Dan Dalrymple, editor Old Cal Yacht hompage.
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Subject: Cal's Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 21:10:17 -0500 From: "CHARLES
H. BREZA" To: go2erie@bright.net
Dan, I have a Cal 2-29 with diesel. It is commercially documented. Also,
own a Coronado 27 with diesel. Both on the Chesapeake. Grew up on the C
& D Canal, north part of the Chesapeake Bay during WWII.
We had a Cal, O'Day & Ranger Boat Owners association with a very
nice newsletter. Membership dropped. My job went south (Florida). Much
better than Virginia. Another wants to start a Pearson - Cal Owner's group.
More later. Need to travel home this week-end. I would like to see another
owners group established. I want to add heat and do it from hind sight
not foresight. It is easier to improve than to be the first. Have been
there from both sides. Charles
Reply #1 . Anyone interested in helping
get a Cal user group started? I could help... Dan Dalrymple, editor,
Old Cal Yachts website.
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Posting #27 ...
Subject: reply to posting #22 Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 08:59:14 -0400
From: "Loehr" To: "Dan Dalrymple"
Hi, I have a Cal 21 also and, never having seen another one,
have a few questions about how the boat was originally set up. One thing
is, how do you keep the water from sloshing up into the cockpit while
under way? It seems that there should be some sort of cover on the swingkeel
trunk, but how does it work? A kick up rudder would be nice, too, as
we sail/camp a lot and need to come close to shore. I would be really interested
in copies of any original paperwork on this boat. It sure does sail well!
It seems fast [Dan, way faster than Eric's boat!] and it's really fun to
sail. My wife and daughter both told me though, that they like to sail
when it's smooth, [no wind]. Looking forward to hearing from somebody,
Steve Loehr, in West Virginia
Reply #1 . Subject: Question 27 Cal 21
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 14:41:24 -0500 From: Templeton & Associates To: go2erie@bright.net
I used to own a Cal 21. It had two pieces of wood that fitted and the top and bottom of the keel well. A piece of elastic cord kept the top piece snug. Please feel free to e-mail or call me if you have any
questions. kmtmd@execpc.com or (608) 251-1662. K M Templeton
Reply #2 . Subject: Question # 27, Cal21 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 22:58:20 -0400 From: Replies will be posted here... To: go2erie@bright.net
Dan, I might be able to help with the question about the keel well plug! My Dad and I own a 1970 Cal 21 H# 285 which he bought new in 1970. Because we almost lost the keel well plug once while
preparing to haul the boat out in the fall, my Dad measured the bottom plug and produced a dimensioned drawing of it. I might be able to photocopy that drawing with the understanding that it is NOT a Cal drawing but is measured off of our own boat.
I too have not seen that many Cal 21s, but they do pop-up occaisionally, check out the article about gunkholing in SAIL magazine's July 1996 issue. THANKS for keeping the "Old " Cal story alive!
Rod Johnson, "NODROG", homeport: Wareham, Ma.
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Subject: Cal 20 Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 20:55:51 EDT From: JMGlitsch
To: go2erie@bright.net
Can you tell me the measurement , in a straight line, from the bottom
of the keel to the highest point on the deck, on a Cal 20????? I am
trying to figure out if I can fit one into my garage. Thanks in advance.
John Glitsch Aptos, CA (Monterey Bay Area)
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Subject: Cal ref. Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 21:06:42 -0700 From: Tim
Carman To: go2erie@bright.net
Dan- As promised, detailed info on good Cal references; "Choice
Yacht Designs" Richard Henderson, International Marine Publishing
Co. 1979 (In my previous e-mail, I confused this book with Bill Robinson's
"Legendary Yachts", which is a great book but sadly neglecting
in Cal info.)
"The Great American Yacht Designers" Bill Robinson, Alfred
A Knopf Pub.,1974
Good reading, Tim Carman
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Subject: Cal 39 Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 14:42:30 -0500 From: Templeton & Associates To: go2erie@bright.net
I am looking at a 1971 Cal 39. I would be interested in people's
experiences and opinions about this boat. Thanks! K M Templeton
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Subject: Cal 28 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:44:24 -0700 From:
"Gord Kerr" To:
I own a Lier Zeigler Built Cal 28 a very roomy fun boat I have the specs but I'm unable to find anything about the boat on the net It's probably the only one in British Columbia, very modern boat for 1986 have never seen another around just wondered if you knew more than I
Thanks Gord Kerr
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Subject: Cal 33 question Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 22:15:16 EDT
From: Oney To: go2erie@bright.net
My wife and I are looking at a 1987 Cal 33 that we have under agreement.
however, the survey pointed out that the head bulkhead had lifted approx. 3/4
of an inch as it looks like the tiebolt(?) from the deck top to the mast had
not been properly tensioned. Therefore, when the shrouds were tightened and
the boat was undersail, the tension from the halyards on the decktop pulled up
the decktop causing the gap. It is actually visable from the head looking at
the screws on the bottom that go through the bulkhead.
Has anyone had this similiar problem? The boatyard wants to just loosen the
shrounds, remove the screws and tighten up the tiebolt(?) to the mast so as to
drop the bulkhead wall back in place They then want to reattach the bulkhead
screws and tighten the shrouds.
I appreciate any feedback people have. Thanks.
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Subject: Cal 9.2 Rig Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 16:30:00 -0400
From: Marshall Findley Organization: Sinclair and Anderson Properties To: go2erie@bright.net
I need to replace the mast and standing rig in a cal 9.2. Any help on
finding a source? Who may have picked up the Kenyon spars after Kenyon
closed?
Thanks
Marshall Findley
mfindley@visi.net
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Subject: cal 48 Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 13:48:13 EDT From:
JPop07@aol.com To: go2erie@bright.net
I was reading your info on Cal boats and did not see the CAl 48 mentioned. I recently bought a '66 Cal 48 and am in the process of a major overhaul. The boat was mainly used for racing and I am redesigning the interior for a cruising boat. Do you have any info on the 1966 48' ?
Jpop07@aol.com
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Subject: Dream Ends, Nightmare Begins. Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:45:48 -0500
From: "catman"
To:
I just bought my first sailboat....a Cal 25 '69 in fairly good shape... a little spongy on the fordeck but that is to be expected....I need sails, running lights and a few other aminities to get it ship shape... can anyone give some info on finding parts for this boat....If original parts exist I would prefer them......Thx catman...tymll
I like the page....I bought my first sailboat today, a Cal 25.... It needs some work but I hope to have many years of sailing with it, if I could only find a source for parts....??? Any ideas.....??? Thx catman... tymll
Reply #1 . I think, after several of these questions asking for sources of original Cal parts, that I can safely say, "There are NO sources for original Cal parts". We, the present owners of Cal Yachts, will need to find parts from other sources. Cal Yachts have been out of business for 13 years now. A new company has picked up the Cal line but only builds the Cal 33 and the Cal 39. Even these two boats do not seem to be designed by Lapworth. This new company does not provide parts for the older Cal Yachts, only for the models that they produce.
Replacment sails are no problem as any sailmaker can provide any sail that a person needs for any make or model of Cal. Running lights can be purchased from several mail order companies such as Defender Industries, E&B Marine, West Marine, and Boats US. The catalogs can be obtained from ads in most sailing magazines or look any of these companies up on the net. Dan Dalrymple, editor, Old Cal Yacht webpage.
Reply #2 . Well, don't order anything from George Crowell who is in Little Compton RI... See post #36. Dan Dalrymple, editor, Old Cal Yacht webpage.
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Subject: Bad Cal dealer? Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 18:40:28 -0400 From: "Peter" peterd@wnyip.net To: go2erie@bright.net
Dan just a note to let you know about some problems i am having with the person who is currently representing himself as Cal/Pearson. I bought a cal 22 last fall from my marina operator. It was built in 1985, hull number 23. This boat had been repossesed by the marina owner so the previous owner stripped many of the parts. I needed to order the boom, sails, standing and running rigging, washboards etc.
The boat is in beautiful condition aside from being stripped. so i found George Crowell who is in Little Compton RI and began to speak to him about ordering the parts all of which he said he had, or could getwithin 4 weeks. This was in November. In december, I began ordering parts from this person and since then i placed several other orders by credit card. He kept telling me they were working on the rigging and he was waiting to send it all at once.Anyway it would take me pages to explain the whole story, including my driving from buffalo to RI last week to pick up anything this guy may have had-with no sucess. its been one lie after another.
Now i am out $3600 that this person who represents himself as Cal\Pearson sailboats has screwed me out of. Aside from feeling like a total idiot for being strung along for so long, our boat is sitting in a slip with no parts. Guess we bought a powerboat. Anyway we now have the police involved as well as the lawyer and credit co. Just thought you should know all this. The whole story is unbelievble. Please warn any other sailors you may know who are attempting to find replacement parts for their cals to stay away form Cal/Pearson Parts. MR. George Crowell 4 west branch road Little Compton Rhode Island 4016352984 , he also represents himself as Little Compton Yachts 4016352980. I hope you will pass the word - I hope this will save others from our fate. Please feel free to contact me if you want to. Peter Disilvio 69 Minard st, Lockport NY 14094 716-434-8540. or peterd@wnyip.net
Reply #1 . Be very careful who you send money to or give your visa/MC number to... Most mail order companies are reputable but there are always a few rotton apples in each barrel. I don't know Mr. Crowell or a company called Little Compton Yachts myself, but I would find out more about him before I had dealings with anyone in his area code or zip code. Con artists commonly change their business names. Dan Dalrymple, editor, Old Cal Yacht webpage.
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Subject: '75 CAL Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:01:52 -0500 From:
"Kevin L. Caldwell" To: go2erie@bright.net
What is the price range for a 1975 CAL 27 in good shape? I haven't seen the boat but only heard about it today. I am new to sailing and am looking for a starter boat. I sailed a 22 footer when I was a teenager and loved it. Thanks in advance for any help you can give. kevin
Reply #1 . We post Cal for Sale ads at the bottom of this Q&A page. We do this for exactly this reason. These ads, taken from books and magazines will give you an idea what Cal Yachts are selling for and what equipment they offer. These ads are legitimate! They are real ads from real advertisers. The date the ad was posted is listed in most of the ads. Dan Dalrymple, editor, Old Cal Yachts website.
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Subject: Cal 30 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:18:05 EDT
To: go2erie@bright.net
Aloha, my name is Rainer, I live in Santa Cruz California. I have owned a Cal 30 since 1975, she is the one with a full keel, cut away forfoot. Do you have info or photos on this boat? She sails fast and safe. I just repowered with Yanmar Diesel 18 horse fresh water cooled engine. But the Atomic 4 prop does not work with that engine. Working on a new prop with different pitch. Any info you have would be appreciated. Rainer Stegemann
Reply #1 . I may be able to shed a little light on the prop pitch problem but you should contact Yanmar, give them your engine/transmission size and the size and weight of your boat and they will tell you which size/pitch prop to use. Also tell them what diameter your present prop is and if you have room to go larger. Always try to maintain at least 10% of your prop diameter clearance between the tips of your prop and the bottom of the hull. For example: a 10 inch prop should have at least 1 inch clearance, a 20 inch prop, 2 inches.
The reason you are having a problem is, most likely, in the difference in the reduction gearing between your Yanmar and your old Atomic 4. The A/4 probably had 2 to 1 reduction and the Yanmar probably has at least 3 to 1. This results in your prop now turning about 1/3 slower. Also, make sure that both of these engines rotate the prop in the same direction. The Yanmar is probably a right hand rotation. Check engine manual to make sure it's right hand rotation then check your prop and make sure that it has "RH" (not a "LH") stamped on it somewhere. Running a prop backward reduces the efficiency. Dan Dalrymple, editor, Old Cal Yachts homepage.
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Subject: Diesel question Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 18:48:22 EDT From:
Please return here to read replies... To: go2erie@bright.net
Hi Dan, Currently in the (long drawn out) process of replacing the original Farymann
A30 diesel in my Cal 29. Anybody out there had any experience with this? Interested mainly in a more easily maintained (and less expensive) product like Yanmar, but dont know the exact specs for easy switchover, without changing engine mounts, etc. I know Yanmar has a two cylinder 18HP that would work(maybe) but new is ridiculous, so a used or rebuilt would hopefully be the answer. Thanks for any help!! Rick TallDrink@aol.com
Reply #1 . Rick, be sure to read the "For Sale" ads on the bottom half of this page, there are several used diesels listed. (also read my disclaimer) Also, if you can get an engine with mounts that line up with the mounts on your old Farymann, you are extremely lucky. Better figure on new motor mounts and a little bit of fabricating. Dan Dalrymple. editor, Old Cal Yachts homepage.
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Subject: Diesel question Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 18:48:22 EDT From: To: go2erie@bright.net
Hi Dan, Currently in the (long drawn out) process of replacing the original Farymann A30 diesel in my Cal 29. Anybody out there had any experience with this? Interested mainly in a more easily maintained (and less expensive) product like Yanmar, but dont know the exact specs for easy switchover, without changing engine mounts, etc. I know Yanmar has a two cylinder 18HP that would work(maybe) but new is ridiculous, so a used or rebuilt would hopefully be the answer. Thanks for any help!! Rick
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Subject: rusting suupport beam Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 15:33:27 -0400 From:
Jim Swick Organization: Lake Worth High School To: go2erie@bright.net
I have a Cruising Cal 36. The steel beam under the compression post under the fiberglass cabin sole is rusting away to nothing. It has two tabs that come up through the sole and is bolted to the bulkhead with four half inch bolts in each tab. I don't see any way to replace this beam without cutting out a large portion of the cabin sole, which will weaken the sole. Has anyone had this problem?
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Subject: question to Dan Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 23:10:14 -0700 From: "S. Goldman" To: go2erie@bright.net
How do I get in touch with Bill Lapworth and Tim Carman re: rubrail? Great page. :-)
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Subject: Cal 2-27 and 34 Brochures Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 12:30:56 -0400
From: "Coggins Peter" Organization: BAH To: Dan Dalrymple
Dan, I have sent you copies of two brochures for both the 2-27 and 34. One of the 34 brochures goes back to the early 70s. Hope that these fill some gaps. Peter
Reply #1 . Peter, thanks for the brochures. I received them fine but havn't had a chance to add them to the site. I'll get them in as soon as I can and yes, they do fill some gaps. dd, editor
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Subject: Cal 39 Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 14:42:30 -0500 From:
Templeton & Associates To: go2erie@bright.net
I am looking at a 1971 Cal 39. I would be interested in people's experiences and opinions about this boat. Thanks! K M Templeton
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Subject: Cal 28 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:44:24 -0700 From: "Gord Kerr" To:
I own a Lier Zeigler Built Cal 28 a very roomy fun boat I have the specs but I'm unable to find anything about the boat on the net It's probably the only one in British Columbia, very modern boat for 1986 have never seen another around just wondered if you knew more than I. Thanks Gord Kerr
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Subject: Cal 33 question Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 22:15:16 EDT
To: go2erie@bright.net
My wife and I are looking at a 1987 Cal 33 that we have under agreement. however, the survey pointed out that the head bulkhead had lifted approx. 3/4 of an inch as it looks like the tiebolt(?) from the deck top to the mast had not been properly tensioned. Therefore, when the shrouds were tightened and
the boat was undersail, the tension from the halyards on the decktop pulled up the decktop causing the gap. It is actually visable from the head looking at the screws on the bottom that go through the bulkhead.
Has anyone had this similiar problem? The boatyard wants to just loosen the shrounds, remove the screws and tighten up the tiebolt(?) to the mast so as to drop the bulkhead wall back in place They then want to reattach the bulkhead screws and tighten the shrouds.
I appreciate any feedback people have. Thanks.
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Subject: Cal 9.2 Rig Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 16:30:00 -0400
From: Marshall Findley Organization: Sinclair and Anderson Properties To: go2erie@bright.net
I need to replace the mast and standing rig in a cal 9.2. Any help on finding a source? Who may have picked up the Kenyon spars after Kenyon closed? Thanks, Marshall Findley
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Subject: HIN on 2-27 Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:09:41 -0400
From: kevin.caldwell To: "SMTP, DDA.RFC-822:go2erie(a)bright.net, P:nationsbank, A:, C:us" 6/22/98
Dan - I have purchased that '75 Cal 2-27 talked about in earlier messages. Thanks for your site and feedback. Question: How do you read the Hull Identification Number for this model?
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Subject: Considering Cal 2-29 Purchase Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:18:35 -0700
From: To: go2erie@bright.net
Considering buying Cal 2-29 as my first boat that I will own. Expect to use it for day sailing and some overnighting with kids. What is good and bad about this boat? When were Cal2-29's produced?
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Subject: maybe you know? Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:50:44 -0700
From: "Lynn Wonnenberg" To:
dan. sort of a irrelevent question but i just purchased a crown 23. I heard there was some sort of a relationship between Crown and Cal. I'm trying to find more info on the Crown series. could you help me? thanks for your time. jeff wonnenberg. victoria, b.c., canada.
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Subject: Looking for manufacturer. Date: 08/05/98 From: Jodeesha To:
What is the name, address etc..of the company that now makes the cal 33?
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Subject: need sail specs for Cal 34. Date: 08/06/98 From: Arend Bunte To:
I'm looking for the specs for the sail plan for a 1977 Cal 34 MK3. I need the dimensions for the main, jib, genoa. Thanks! Arend Bunte
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Subject: need info on Cal 22 Date: 08/10/98 From: randy tahsler To:
pls. advise if you have info. on the cal22. i own a 1985 . i have the orginal owners manual but that is all the info. i have. do you know when the 22 first was mfg? randy tahsler/ marietta ga.
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Subject: info on Cal ports? Date:08/10/98 From:John Shullo To: go2erie@bright.net
Dan: Thanks for a Cal web site. I have a 1977 Cal 2-27 #339 that I bought new. The boat is on lake Lanier, just outside Atlanta. I have just completed a complete renovation of the interior. Last winter, I had the bottom done and all is like new again. The boat had not been out of the water for 12 years yet had no more than 50 small blisters.
It has an outboard motor, one of the last made, I believe. It still sails and looks great. I will try to send pictures. I recently purchased a new North Club racer sail, which has greatly enhanced boat speed in light wind.
I would like to replace one of the small non opening ports but I have lost track of the OEM, Go Industries, in S. Cal. A few years ago I was able to purchase the large ports from them. If anyone knows how to reach them, please let me know jshullo@crdatlanta.com.
If you are interested, I have a like new (no wrinkles)brochure for the 2-27. Since I am somewhat technically challenged, I don't know if you can add it to the web page. If you are interested, let me know.
(editor's note: yes, I'm interested in any and all information on any Cal Yacht. However, in the summer sailing season I sometimes get slow on my posting but if you send copies of Cal literature, it'll get posted.)
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Subject: Is it worth it??? Date: 08/14/98 From: allyn rosenbaum To:
My sister has a cal 25 near galveston, TX. she is willing to give boat
to me. i live in w palm beach, fl. to truck boat here including
de-masting(stepping), hauling out of water, prep for shipping, i am
looking at about 3k. the boat is 1973, do u think this is too much to
put into boat. probably needs 500 bucks for cosmetic painting etc..
does this year hull have any signifigance???? i do not want to spend 3k
or more for a boat thats worth 2k?? what is value of a boat from
'73?? i would appreciate any info u may have including any trucking
co's u might know that could truck boat to florida. thank you. allyn rosenbaum
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Subject:Swap keels? Date:08/11/98 From:George and Kim
Chimiklis. To:
Berthed at the Stockton Sailing Club, my Cal 2-30 (Californians just have to do everything their own way) was built in1969 and is still a fast boat. There are about 25 Cal boat in the harbor 2-27s, 29, 3
2-30s, and a 39.
I'm interested in corresponding with Mr. Lapworth....particularly in trying to determine the effects of lightening the standing rigging (mast and boom) by using new materials and swapping the fin keel for a winged keel with less depth. We sail in the San Joaquin River, where depth is a major issue.
Just wondering if you've ever considered this idea. George and Kim Chimiklis. (editor's note: I remember hitting a website on a Cal 34 that changed his Standing rigging in order to race faster. He went to a 7/8ths rig and a high-tech tapered mast. I can't think of the boat name right now but I'm sure that he helped the boat's speed. The winged keel wouldn't help the boat to windward but if you need shoal draft they can't be beat. One thing to consider, changing either the keel or the standing rigging won't be cheap! Also, remember to list your old keel and standing rigging right here on this page to sell it and divert some of the costs.)
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Subject: need spreader for Cal 25 Date:08/14/98 From: Daniel L. Bella To:
I saw a message on your site from Jay Wolcott, correcting the
identification of the picture of the Cal 25. My friend owns a Cal 25.
It has the scooped out transom for his outboard, just like the one in
the picture. There is a used boat review of the Cal 25 in the February,
1998 issue of Sailing Magazine, complete with specifications.
I have a day sailer, but of course we take his boat in rougher weather
or for longer trips. We got caught in a storm about 5 or 6 weeks ago,
and he lost a spreader. He sent the remaining spreader to a place on
the east coast, but they seem to have trouble matching it or coming up
with another set that will work for his boat.
I feel badly for him, because he is missing a great deal of the sailing
season (we sail on Lake Michigan). Do you know a source we can contact
for parts for his Cal 25? Do you know who else I can contact. If you
think Jay Wolcott could help, could you possibly forward this to him? Thanks! Bye for now, Visit the Della Stella Bella Far Far Away From Home Page:
http://www.pla-net.net/~dbella/
Hi again! Sorry to bother you again, but I explored further and just
found your Q&A page. I should have looked further earlier. Perhaps you
can post my last e-mail, or a portion thereof, under the above subject,
on your Q&A page. Thanks for the service!
I'll try to get pictures of my friend's Cal 25 to scan and send to you.
We have lots of pictures, but they are taken from the boat! It is a
great boat. Sturdy, stable, yet good performing and fun to sail. Bye for now, Dan
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Note: We post these ads for the information of our readers only. Some of these ads were sent directly to this website, some were simply copied from books and/or magazines. Whenever I see any ad in any publication that might be of use to any Cal owner, I post a copy of the ad here. I post them because they offer information about Cal Yachts. I simply post a copy of the ad, I'm not promoting any of these advertisments. I know nothing about them. Please advise me if you find any of these items have been sold. I try to enter all these ads correctly but there is always a possibility of a typo. Sorry, but I cannot be responsible for typos.
Always be careful when purchasing from an unknown seller. See Post #36 as an example. Also, I realize that I have been posting some non-Cal ads here. Some are from dockmates in my marina that have found this site. So, in order to be fair, I will now accept ads for any make or model sailboat or sailboat parts for sale here. If we get too many non-Cal ads, we'll just start another "non-Cal for sale" section. So send me your sail ads, looks like this site will get about 4000 visitors next year, ALL SAILORS! Don't forget, these ads are free! Just e-mail them to me and I'll post them. Dan Dalrymple, editor, Old Cal Yachts webpage
This is the start of the FOR SALE section . . . "page down" to continue. Maybe I should remove these ads since they are a couple years old. Oh well, I'll leave them here for a while longer. editor
For Sale #1 . 39' Cal MKII, 1980. Tall
rig, Lapworth classic. PHRF 105. B&G depth, speed, wind, GPS at helm.
Perkins 4-108 50 hp diesel. Over $30k in recent upgrades. Lectrasan head,
HCPW, Full batten main, 105% blade, 135%, 150% 153% flasher, Harken furler,
Excellent shape, asking $65,000. . Call Peter days, 201-784-9700 or nights
212-755-6374. New York
For Sale #2 . Cal 22', 1987, new
genoa, new mast, VHF, depth sounder, 8 hp Johnson Sailmaster. Asking $8500.
. . New Jersey, 609-697-4488
For Sale #3 . Cal 25', keel, 5 sails,
Mercury Outboard. Sleeps 4, $2900 or best offer. 203-488-5133 Connecticut.
For Sale #4 . 34' Cal, 1968, Rugged
bluewater boat. RF, new sails, Atomic 4 rebuilt 1996, new upholstery, great
cruiser, ready to go. $24,000. . 401-884-7014 Brewer Yacht Sales. Rhode
Island.
For Sale #5 . 27 Cal 2-27, 1976,
Atomic 4, RF, knot meter, depth sounder, LORAN, VHF, autohelm. Documented,
well maintained fast cruiser. $12,000. or reasonable offer. 508-443-2686.
Massachusetts.
For Sale #6 . 28 Cal, 1987, diesel,
wheel, RF, Datam instruments, LORAN, large double quarterberth, aft head,
nicely maintained, $33,900. . 617-749-1645 Massachusetts
For Sale #7 . Cal 27, 1973, 4 sails,
knot meter, depth sounder, Porti-potti. $2900. . Bayreuther Boat Yard,
Connecticut. 860-739-6264
For Sale #8 . Atomic 4 parts, Everything
available in new, re-manufactured or used condition. Same day shipping.
Old Lyme Marina 860-434-1272 Connecticut.
For Sale #9 . Repower with Yanmar Diesel
engines, Worldwide parts and service. Complete instalation packages
available. Special Dealer pricing. Oldport Marine, Sayer's Warf, Newport,
RI, 02840. 401-847-9109.
For Sale #10 . New Atomic 4 cooling
pumps and carburetors, in stock. Same day shipping. Old Lyme Marina
860-434-1272 Connecticut.
For Sale #11 . Yanmar Marine Engines
repower specialists. Parts and service manuals. New and used engines
bought and sold. We ship anywhere. Cal 8 - 5 Monday thru Saturday. 1-800-2
YANMAR.
For Sale #12 . 46' Cal 3-46, 1977. Perkins
85 HP diesel, many custom upgrades. RADAR, LORAN, generator, inverter,
new stove, air conditioning, 10 foot dinghy with 15 hp outboard, Truly
excellent condition, asking $144,900. . Call Bob Dunning, Maryland Yachts,
410-226-5571
For Sale #13 . 39' Cal, 1979, Perkins
diesel, dodger, furler, full batten main, spinnaker, autopilot, Seatalk
instruments, davits, much more. $59,500. . 804-794-0858 Virginia
For Sale #14 . CAL 20, 1975, 8 hp
Johnson, recent sails, other upgrades. Roomy cockpit and clean. Asking
$4500. . (Massachusetts) 508-758-4791 Mattapoisett Boatyard
For Sale #15 . 39' Cal MK III, 1983.
Aft cabin, shoal draft lovly large teak interior. Extensive inventory including
raft and furling main. $57,000. . Maine
For Sale #16 . 34' Cal, 1968. Everything
new, rebuilt engine 1996, etc. Reduced to $23,000 or best offer. 401-272-2222
work, or 508-336-7827 home. Rhode Island.
For Sale #17 . Cal 34', 1968 Excellent
condition but needs engine. $15,000. . firm 919-504-0249 North Carolina
For Sale #18 . Cal 34', 1976 Super
condition, AP, LORAN, W/D/S, new water heater, 25 hp Westerbeke diesel,
dodger with awning, very attractive. $27,000. . Hellier Yacht Sales, Connecticut
860-442-1154.
For Sale #19 . Cal 34' New Yanmar
diesel in 1997, upgrades in all departments. Like new below. $31,000. .
Maryland. ESYB 410-778-6699
For Sale #20 . 33' Cal sloop, 1987
Yanmar diesel engine, AP, GPS, loaded with new sails. Excellent condition,
new sails. Reduced to $54,000. . Lighthouse Yacht Sales South Carolina
803-785-7654
For Sale #21 . 33' Cal, 1996 Showboat
and looks it! Harken RF (roller furling), full battened main, VHF, Data
depth finder and knot meter, New boat warranty. Sailaway at $118,000. .
Lippingcott Marine, Maryland 410-827-9300
For Sale #22 .Cal 31', 1981. Very
clean, large interior. A comfortable cruiser with very little use. $32,500.
. Willis Marine Center, 516-421-3400. New York.
For Sale #23 .Cal 29' (2-29) 1976.
wheel steering, diesel engine, roller furling. Sleeps 5, nice little bay
cruiser. $16,500. . Call Paul Lippincott at The Yacht Group Inc. 800-827-8089
Maryland.
For Sale #24 .Cal 29' 1970. Universal
diesel 18 hp new 1991. Raytheon RADAR, roller furling, nice sailing classic
cruiser/racer. $14,500. . Massachusetts Bay Yacht Brokerage, 508-741-1477,
617-241-7077.
For Sale #25 . Folding prop, Michigan.
12" X 8", 3/4 inch shaft. $100 used only two seasons. 920-725-6784,
June 98.
For Sale #26 .Atomic 4 carburetors.
(part #U288482) Brand new and deep discounted this month (June 98) to $199.95.
This is more than $100 savings from list price. Satisfaction guaranteed.
800-233-6539 or e-mail us at foleyeng@aol.com . June 1998.
For Sale #27 .108 Brass oil pumpout
change kits. $199. satisfaction guaranteed. Call Foley Marine, 800-233-6539
or e-mail us at foleyeng@aol.com . June 1998
For Sale #28 .Volvo-Penta MD-10-A WANTED
! Needed for parts, any condition . . . Description: Gasoline marine
type engine, usually green in color, two spark plugs on top, large flywheel
on one end, transmission/shaft on other, 2 cylinders, water cooled, June
1998.
For Sale #29 .Yanmar Diesel engine,
1 GM. Low hours, includes tank, shaft, propeller, excellent, $1950.
860-434-9954. June 1998.
For Sale #30 . Atomic 4 freshwater cooling
system. Includes new seawater pump driven off existing alternator belt,
heat exchanger, mounting bracket, all fittings. $495. . New design, adjustable
temperature control valve available option. Indigo Electronics, 800-428-8569,
http://www.atomic4.com. June 1998.
For Sale #31 . Atomic 4 upgrade kits.
Crankcase ventilation system eliminates oil fumes, oil filter (the filter
that Universal Engines forgot), high output alternator with "smart"
regulator for improved battery managment, electric fuel pump, safer, more
reliable fuel system. Indigo Electronics, 800-428-8569, http://www.atomic4.com.
June 1998 .
For Sale #32 .Atomic 4 Electronic Ignition.
USolid-state, do-it-yourself kits expressly engineered for the Atomic 4.Includes
high performance coil, ignition wires, $225. . Indigo Electronics, 800-428-8569,
http://www.atomic4.com. June 1998.
For Sale #33 .Atomic 4 parts: Crankshaft, $500; Camshaft with gear, $350; Blocks, $500; Randazzo Yacht mechanics, 12 Matincock Avenue, Port Washington, NY 11050. 516-767-1666 http://www.randazzoyacht.qpg.com . June 1998
For Sale #34 .Volvo MD-2. runs, no motor mounts, $1395. . Randazzo Yacht mechanics, 12 Matincock Avenue, Port Washington, NY 11050. 516-767-1666 http://www.randazzoyacht.qpg.com . June 1998
For Sale #35 .Pearson 26, freshwater boat! Older Pearson 26 in good shape, freshwater only. Located near Toledo on Lake Erie. Only $3000 without outboard, $3700 with motor. (She forgot to tell me what brand of outboard.) For specs and line draeings on this Pearson 26, go to my main index from the bottom of this page, then choose "Dan's Favorite Sailboats of Lake Erie". The pearson 26 has always been one of my favorites. This will make a great "starter" boat for a couple. Call Mrs. Kelly Peterlin, 419-693-6701. Ad posted May 16th, 1998. Editor's note: I realize that this isn't a Cal ad but the sellers here are dockmates in my marina. To be fair, I will now accept ads for any make or model sailboat or sailboat parts for sale here. If we get too many non-Cal ads, we'll just start another "non-Cal" for sale section. Don't forget, these ads are free!
For Sale #36 .18 foot Banno Old World sailboat. Gaff rig, Wooden mast, Fiberglass hull. Very traditional sailboat... Built in 1984, Tanbark red sails includes Ballooner sail and camper top cover. Also includes trailer. $5000. . buys all. Freshwater boat located in northern Ohio. Call 330-537-3404, For more information call Don Ruggiero daily 1:00pm to 9:00pm or e-mail to Rodney909@aol.com . Ad posted May 16th, 1998. Editor's note: I realize that this isn't a Cal ad but the sellers here are dockmates in my marina. To be fair, I will now accept ads for any make or model sailboat or sailboat parts for sale here. If we get too many non-Cal ads, we'll just start another "non-Cal" for sale section. Don't forget, these ads are free!
For Sale #37 . Cal 20 for sale. Subject: Cal 20 for sale Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 12:09:11 -0700 From: Denece &/or Bob Vincent Organization: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/campernicholson
To: go2erie@bright.net
We have a CAL20 in somewhat rough condition but it comes on a new Trailrite trailer with all the goodies and has a new set of sails (pineapple loft, only used twice). It also comes with an old OB,
lifevests, cushions, lines fenders, etc etc etc. We got a bigger boat and parked this one which needs to be sold to finance schooling. $2000.00 OBO (209)836-2027
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